Re: LAN Hardware/Software advice & NCSA Telnet

Tim Krauskopf (
Fri, 1 Apr 88 13:46:50 CST

To clear some points about this comment:

        Q: How can the IBM PC's and Mac SEs also do the rlogin/telnet/ftp,etc.,
                action with either of the UNIX VAX or VMS uVAX? How should
                be go about doing this? Money is no object but of course
                a few hundred feet above the ground is our limit (read $50,000
                to $150,00 is my anticipated budget :-). Feel free to share your
                expreriences and flights of fancy. I'm all ears!
        A: You can fully equip an IBM-PC with an Ethernet card and TCP
                software for less than $500 dollars. You can probably do it
                for less than $300 if you rely on Public Domain software and
                the cheaper Ethernet cards. We tend towards the Micom 5210
                cards these days. For Macintoshes, there is no good way for
                the non-MAC-II's to hold an Ethernet card. However, you can
                run TCP/IP nicely by using an Appletalk->Ethernet gateway.
                Specifically, the Kinetics FastPath (less than $2000) which will
                serve an entire Appletalk net. We use this in conjunction with
                the public domain NCSA telnet. You can get Ethernet cards for
                the MAC-II's and rumor has it for the SE, but I have no experience
                with this as the FastPath box is more economical when you have
                more than one or two Macs to hook up.

Kinetics sells working, available for many months, Ethernet devices for:
        Mac SE internal board (Etherport SE)
        external Ethernet (EtherSC) - hooks up to Mac SCSI port
        gateway from AppleTalk/Ethernet - (FastPath)
I consider these to be "good" ways for non-Mac II's to Ethernet - they
are all running in my building.
Kinetics, Apple and 3COM all sell Mac II Ethernet boards.

NCSA Telnet supports all of these and also comes in a PC version.
Anon FTP from (

Tony Michel (from different posting) will be happy to find out that his
version of NCSA Telnet for the Mac (1.12 - 6/87) was updated in November
(2.1 - 11/87) and 2.2 will be out this summer. Yes tn3270 but no user
FTP yet.

 Tim Krauskopf (ARPA)
 National Center for Supercomputing Applications National Center for Supercomputing Applications 14013@ncsavmsa (BITNET)
 University of Illinois

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